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Another video displaying the amazing performance of the stick is here: Hydrogen Stick Performance Test on YouTube

In this video the water takes on an ORP of -291 in one hour- amazing!

 

Regarding the negative video:

I commend the efforts of this person toward making a scientific, fact-based performance evaluation of the stick. However, there are many obvious problems with this test causing the poor results this person is observing.

The pH goes down after some time- she claims it is because the hydrogen is going away. This is a gross conceptual error. pH is merely a logarithmic ratio describing the difference in quantity between H+ and OH- ions (which are tied together in a dissociation constant). More OH- relative to H+ is alkaline, and more H+ relative to OH- is acid.

Water can have lots of molecular hydrogen (H2) or no molecular hydrogen and still have a very low or very high pH either way. The hydrogen stick creates H2 and H- which have no great effect on pH until the water has stabilized over a period of hours to days. This is the biggest mistake I see people selling ionizers making- not understanding chemistry. Hydrogen concentration in the water is not measured by pH, only the activity of the positive hydrogen ion (H+) and thus the hydroxide ion (OH-).

The pH would also go down because the cup is being exposed to air allowing the water to absorb CO2 which is broken down into carbonic acid (H2CO3) which then breaks down further liberating H+ and therefore the water is more acid. All waters exposed to air for long enough will become slightly acid.

The lid on the test cup is not air tight and there is a large air gap above the water. This is not the ideal vessel to use with the stick. You want to use a bottle in which you can close the lid and shake. Shake once after adding the stick and filling to the top with no air gap. Shake again before drinking 15 minutes later. This releases the hydrogen gas from the porous stick. If the stick just sits there not moving it will become gas-bound. This means that hydrogen now surrounds the magnesium inside the stick and that the reaction has stopped. Magnesium needs to be in contact with the water for the reaction to continue. Always shake vigorously often.

A negative ORP is going to be fairly hard to achieve in an open container with an air gap. Any Oxidation Reduction Potential will be minimized by the continuous oxidation from the air. This is why we tell people to use a bottle with an airtight cap and to minimize the air gap in the bottle. You could start with an amazingly low ORP in an open cup like that and literally watch the meter rise before your eyes. This is because the water is interacting with the air.

ORP also has nothing to do with H2 concentration, but is merely the potential of a fluid to give up electrons to something it is in contact with. It is a much better indication of H-, but not H2. H2 will need to be given some time to naturally decay into H- in order to be detected by ORP.

Despite all of these errors I think the worst part is that the person missed the point of the stick. It isn’t the pH water stick or the ORP water stick, but the hydrogen-rich water stick. Dr. Hayashi’s research has shown conclusively that when one gets enough H2, neither pH nor ORP is of any concern. (Remember that he is also responsible for all the clinical research on the ionizing machines.) The H2 becomes a superior anti-oxidant in the body and will not show up on the ORP readings on the meter. This is because the H2 must interact with hydrogenase enzymes in the body before it becomes and anti-oxidant.

Any negative ORP from the stick is merely a bonus because there are many orders of magnitude more H2 than H-. The total antioxidant effect then is many times greater than that indicated by ORP.

Again, our video displaying the amazing performance of the stick is here: Hydrogen Stick Performance Test on YouTube

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